Endeavor 25 Sightings


Date: September 23, 1998
From: Ron Crisco crisco@freewwweb.com

Paul,
Just a note to let you know that, in my many years of dealing with sailboats, I have only ran into one of these strange critters. It is actually a re-labeled LANCER 25!


Date: September 24, 1998
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com

Ron,
Is this the mysterious, "did it or didn't it exist", Endeavor 25 that I've read about? If so, do you have any more info? What did it look like? Did Endeavour create it or buy the mold like the E32? I know you may not have the answers--just thought I'd ask.


Date: September 24, 1998
From: Ron Crisco crisco@freewwweb.com

Paul.
Sorry, I was absolutely amazed, and I might add, lost a bet to a friend who claimed to own an Endeavor 25. I have no more info on this boat, but I can tell you that it was definitely an Endeavor 25 insignia on the boat and it looked identical to the Lancer 25. He sold the boat about ten years ago and bought a Seidleman 30. Would be interested to know how this boat was built even though Lancer continued to build them thru 1983.


Date: September 29, 1998
From: Ronny Crisco
crisco@freewwweb.com

Paul,
I just got off the phone with the people @Buc Book. According to their records, Lancer ceased operations in late 1985. The elusive 25 remains just that!


Date: March 26, 2001
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com

Apparently there was also an Endeavour 24 built by a Sydney, Australia company that is out of business now. I received an e-mail from a gentleman who lives there who ownes/d a 1979 version. It has no relation to the E25 or Lancer 25 being discuused here. Just an interesting sidenote.


Date: December 17, 2001
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com

Dear Lake Erie PHRF,
My name is Paul Uhl and I run the Endeavour Owners Forum. I came across your site while I was researching E32 rating information and noticed that you have a rating for an Endeavor 26 and was wondering if this was correct. The reason I ask is that Endeavour supposedly manufactured an E25 that almost exactly matches the LOA, beam, and draft that you list for the Endeavor 26.

My interest stems from the fact that nobody seems to have any information, seen, or been able to locate anything about this boat.

The Lake Erie PHRF rating you have listed for the Endeavour 26 is the first tangible information I've come across to indicate that it actually does/did exist and I was hoping that you may be able to give us some additional information.

Any help you can give us is very much appreciated.


Date: December 19, 2001
From: Bill Kellner kellner@centuryinter.net

We had an Endeavor 26 which is no longer in the area and exists only in our historical database. The rating was 228. My information shows that the boat was designed by Lapworth in 1963 which would probably make it one of the first Endeavors. This appears to be the only Endeavor designed by Lapworth; Lapworth designed a lot of the early Cal line of boats. When looking at the specs on this boat I noticed that the boat has a beam of only 7.17 ft, w/l of 18' and weighed 3200#. With upwind SA/Displ of 20.7, this was a pretty hot boat in its day. This boat rates the same as a more famous Lapworth 1965 design - the Cal 25 which was more beamier (9') and had less horsepower (SA/D=18).

Sorry, but I can't be of much more help.


Date: November 1, 2003
From: Jere Austin jerea@alltel.net

I may have a bit of information to clear up some of your Endeavour history.

The Lancer 25 was built for Lancer by Endeavour. There never was an Endeavour 25. Endeavour produced the east coast Lancer 25's at their Belcher Rd. facility starting in 1975. The 25 was a pop off the Columbia T-23 which was being produced when Dick Valdes left Columbia. He and Maury Thrienen modified the boat to be a 25 and sought manufacturers with excess manufacturing space to build them on contract. Al Larson and myself, Jere Austin, were the agents for Lancer in the South East region. They had a west coast and a new England manufacturer. Dick Valdes is, of course, the older brother of Rob Valdes who co-started Endeavour with John Brooks with the Irwin 32 tooling which they bought from Ted Irwin. Dick was a pioneer in the fiberglass industry taking Columbia to stardome with the initial help of Vince Lazarra.

Also, the modified E-32 was a house design by the in-house production, design guy, Dennis Robbins. Dennis also modified the Creekmoore 34 to miraculously become the E-37. Bob Johnson came along later with the 43. Dennis went on to run Ted Irwins designs and later to the mega yacht company, Trident, in Tampa.

I also worked for Endeavour in their twilight years running the tooling and fiberglass production. Regretfully, my last responsibility was to lay off the whole crew when John and Rob shut the company down in 1986!

Hope this helps. Jere Austin (near Cleveland, Ohio)


I'm not sure if these are the spec's for the so called "Endeavor 25," but this is what the Lancer Owners web site shows for the Lancer 25:

Models: Lancer 25, Lancer 25 Mk IV, Lancer 25 Mk V

Designer: W. Shad Turner

LOA: 24'-8"
LWL: 20'-1"
Beam: 8'-0
Draft: 2'-4"
Displacement: 3,400 lbs
Mast Height (above DWL): 32'
Ballast: 1,200 lbs
Sail Area: 248 sq. ft

Here is a PDF for the Lancer 25 (906kb)


Date: February 17, 2023
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com

On the company's brochure, W. Shad Turner is listed as designer of the LANCER 25. It has been said that this design derived, in part, from the COLUMBIA T-23. The tooling had somehow been provided by Richard Valdez, co-founder of Columbia Yachts, and brother to Rob Valdez, one of the principals of Endeavour Yachts. The boats were actually built on contract by Endeavour at their east coast plant from 1975 to 1984.


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