OTHER OWNERS COMMENTS
Propane Stove Refit
Date: July 12, 1999
From: Bob and Sandy Warren rwarren@inna.net
Paul, I visited the website and there I could see your installation pictures -- probably the same ones I had troubles with that you e-mailed me.
I finished up last Thursday. My installation ended up much like yours except I used two elbows, one for the gauge, and the other after the regulator and before the solenoid. My gauge ends up being dipped down and the regulator/solenoid end is slanted upward. At any rate, it fits.
I drilled my two holes through to the lazarette about the same as you did, but fed and mounted the gas line and solenoid wires on the underside of the lazarette seat aft of the part that lifts up. Once around to the starboard side I followed the routing that the alcohol hose had taken. I ran out of my 20 feet of hose, though, right about at the wastebasket cutout, so had to get an additional 10 ft. section as well as a male to male brass fitting to join the two.
I put my control panel (Trident in my case) about where you did but maybe slightly more midships. I started drilling a little too high and ran into interference from the seat -- actually the cooler section, but made it fit. I connected this wiring to the cabin lights circuit on the boat, thinking that it will likely be on when we're in cooking mode.
However, by doing this, the sniffer is on if the cabin light circuit is on. In a way this is a good thing because it is sniffing for gas whether or not the stove is being used, but I noticed that the sniffer gets pretty hot as part of its normal operation and I wonder whether it may not wear out prematurely.
So I'm on the trail to see if the KES company, original electrical supplier, is still in business. If so I will buy a couple of extra circuit breakers and install them. My panel has its breakers in a horizontal row; all switches go up and down rather than left & right like yours. I have an unused row so that is where the breakers will go, if I can get them.
It is great to have a stove that will actually light, and perk coffee!
We're headed across the Chesapeake Saturday to the Eastern Shore and Onancock, Crisfield, the Great Wicomico, and then up the Potomac a little way to St. Mary's, the first capitol of Maryland. There's a small liberal arts college there with a terrific sailing team, among other things.
You'll probably beat me on doing the first meal, but I could cyberserve some boiled crabs!
Date: December 6, 1999
From: Armand Zerilli azerill1@tampabay.rr.com
Paul,
I had a hassle getting propane outside the U.S... so I have just removed my Galley Maid (model G-16 original equipment on E_40) SS 3 burner propane stove and oven with shut off controls.
I replaced it with an all electric system made by Seward Model 2247, which was a nice fit.
Date: August 28, 2000
From: Carol & Bruce McMahon lbm@ComptekAmherst.com
Hello,
My E33 "Cu Mara" has a Tasco/Kenyon stove. The fuel line goes through a DC activated in-line switch. Does this unit make a noise when activated? If so, then mine is probably bad. If not, I have to check fuel flow in the fuel lines surrounding it by piping around the switch to eliminate the switch or show clogged lines. Also, I do not see the requisite DC input to the stove as shown in the Kenyon manual (I am trying to get a Tasco manual). Was this stove the original on this model year?
Date: August 28, 2000
From: John Craine jcraine@optonline.net
My 1984 E 33 Traces was bought from original owner. It has a Galley Maid propane oven/stove. I recently rewired the detector after a lightning hit but the stove never made any noise before or after. My power panel has a stove on/off switch, and the stove has a second switch wired in to a Fireboy S2A detector/control/alarm. I'm not sure that answers your question, but I found Galley Maid Cust Service very helpful. You might try same for your mfg.
Date: November 26, 2001
From: Scott G. Fagersten gremlin@snowhill.com
Paul,
I am looking for a replacement propane drop in stove for Mardi Gras, '83 E33. I'm wondering if anyone has found a replacement for the E33. Any help would be appreciated. I'll let you know how the deck lines aft works out. Thanks,
Date: November 26, 2001
From: Paul uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com
Scott,
Most of the new stoves will fit into the original 'cut-outs'. We replaced ours on our E32 and only needed a small shim to make it fit. You can read about it at:
http://www.endeavourowners.com/dscsn/systems/galley/propane.html
Date: November 27, 2001
From: Howie Hammermann howie@skysound.com
I recently replaced my ancient stove (Only one burner still worked!) with a Force 10 stove, Model 63451.
The installation was completely painless, other than the actual muscling of the stove into the boat and into place in the gimbals. If you have a friend that can help, it will make the physical work a little easier. Technically, there were no problems. Plan on trial fitting it a couple of times though. Measure carefully for the gimbal locations.
The new Force 10 had the opposite threads on it's gas inlet than the previous stove, but a trip to the hardware store fixed that. As for the gimbal mounts, since the original stove was a 2 burner, and the new one is a 4 burner, I had to position the new mounts forward a little, and up a bit. That's easy to do since they are screwed to the bulkhead and icebox wall.The stove now gimbals perfectly, and the gimbal lock slides right into the
forward bulkhead, to the left of the stove.
There's still room enough under the stove to use the shelf for pots and pans, and the stock wooden stove cover still slides into it's track behind the stove easily. The stove swings just fine past the stowed cover.
All in all, it was an easy change, with the total work time being around 4 hours to completion.
This stove model has one 8000 BTU burner, three 5000 BTU burners, a thermostatic oven, with an additional top broiler (infrared, very nice) in the oven, and a clear glass door, which is nice for checking the progress of you soufflé without having to open the door. I also added an oven thermometer, so it's easy to see how the temperature is doing. It's one of those with big easy to read numbers that you can get at Safeway, in the kitchen goodies department. The 8000 BTU burner is nice because it boils water very quickly, and the 5000 BTU burners will go very low for simmering.
If I can help in any other way, please e-mail me or call me at any time.
