Converting an E43 to cutter
Date: October 15, 1999
From: Dennis and Barbara Rings Moxsun@aol.com
I am looking for anyone that has an Endeavor 43 Cutter Rig, We are looking at the possibuility of placing an inner forestay for a storm sail. I am trying to figure where the best place to locate a chain plate for that stay and need information on where the stay is located on a cutter rig, anyone that could help, I would appriciate this information.
Date: October 15, 1999
From: Joe Kovacich NLandNav@aol.com
Our E43 "NeverLand" has an inner forstay which I could get dimensions for, but right now it's in the middle of Irene.... in Ft. Lauderdale. My wife and daughters have moved into an appartment ashore and we're hoping for minimal damage. I'm in upper Michigan. Remind me to get them to get dimensions for you in a few days.
Date: August 21, 2000
From: Wolfgang Harms Wolfgang@pioneer-research.com
We have a 43 Ketch and need a working jib, since often, even our 120 genoa is overpowered and partially furled it does not have a good shape. Also a club footed smaller foresail would be a great help in tacking on rivers and bays when short handed. The need for a storm sail also exists. The mast has two possible eyes for attaching a stay, about 3/4 up and 1/2 up.
Where is the foot of the stay to be attached? We have an anchor whinch on the bowsprit. Another problem is that we keep our 12-foot inflatable on the foredeck. Any suggestions?
Date: August 21, 2000
From: Donna Cass bacchus42@earthlink.net
We just converted out 42 Endeavour to a "cutter" rig. Bacchus had a tang installed when new on the mast at the level of the upper spreaders. This gave a triangular supper with the upper shrouds and the inner stay. We cut a slot into the afty center of the anchor locker opening, and placed a heavy Shaeffer tang by first, fairing the surface of the aft anchor weel bulkhead and drilling four holes into the forward berth. After placing a stainless predrilled backing plate, and lots of goo (Lifecaulk) we screwed four 1/2 inch stainless steel bolts throu the backing plate, bulkhead and tang. Our rigger says that this will be very strong, and able to take the pressure of a storm jib in rough weather. We have a turnbuckle that is coneccted to the lower toggle by a fastpin, so that we can move the stay yo the base of the mast if we want to use a larger Genoa upwind. The sails are set up with a 95% Yankee on the forestay, and a 100% staysail on the inner stay. The staysail is controlled by a block system riding free on a small boat traveller track, with a single sheet routed back to the cockpit where the mainsheet had been before we moved the whole
shebang aft. Hope this helps. Feel free to give the Rings our E-mail address. Truly
Date: August 21, 2000
From: Ferdy Sant FERDYSANT@aol.com
I have a E40 sloop. I am outfitting it for blue water cruising. To keep my deck clear and still have a cutter rigged storm sail I did the following.
On my deck approx 7 ft in from the fore stay, behind the anchor locker, I mounted a folding pad eye on the deck. I re-enforced under the deck in the v berth. The folding pad eye gave me something to hook my foot of the sail to and not be a toe breaker. I have a block just above the spreaders that is for a spinnaker pole. I had the rigging shop inspect the weld and the block a they said it would hold a storm sail. Ullman Sails designed and made a storm sail.
The trick is the leading edge of the sail, head to foot they sewed in a 1/2 " line with a 40 inch pendant under the foot of the sail to get clearance above the cabin. The head of the sail I have an eye sewed in. When the shit hits the fan I have a snatch block on the pendant that I attach to the folding pad eye on the deck. I then hook the spinnaker boom halyard, by means of another snatch block, to the head of the sail and hoist it up and crank it tight by means of the winches on the mast. The manufacturers today are making line as strong as stainless steel. The 1/2 inch line allows easy storage in a sail bag and still gives you the strength of a stainless stay.
For sheets I have eyes bolted aft of my main cabin hatches (approx. 6 inches). I re-enforced under the padeye in the main cabin with teak blocks 4"X6". These are high gloss and through bolted from the outside. I use a bullseye on the side of my dodger and lead the sheets to my foot block and up to my main winch. For the pad eyes behind my main cabin hatches I have snatch blocks. It sounds very complicated but it really is very simple. When the weather gets bad it would take five minuets to set everything and hoist the storm jib. If you would like pictures I will send them by e-mail.
Date: August 21, 2000
From: Wayne Turk JANWAYNE@aol.com
Sorry, I own a 40'. It has a pad eye already made into the front of the mast at the height they want it I guess & a beefed up place on the deck just behind the anchor locker cover. I have never installed one as we just wouldn't use it enough to justify taking up the room & having to do something with the babystay while we are not using it.
Date: August 21, 2000
From: Don Freeman DNFSirius@aol.com
We have a ketch, Sirius Endeavour, and added an inner forestay. We attached in the chain locker to the vertical divider which separates the locker to hold two rodes. It appears plenty strong. We attached a threaded rod to a turnbuckle through bolted to the vertical divider and screwed into the forestay stem-head fitting in the deck. We located that position by imagining an undeviated line from the tang in the mast for the forestay passing through the deck and ending at the turnbuckle on the divider in the chain locker. I can't give you the exact position on deck because our boat is in annapolis, MD and we are back in San Diego. The staysail has worked fine though we don't always fly it. We will return to Sirius Endeavour the end of September and could email you the measurements at that time. I believe the line drawings for the E-43 show the position on deck of the forestay and you could interpolate the location. Good luck.
