Head Holding Tank
Date: May 26, 1998 I'm trying to get the head in my E32 legal such that I we will use it. The previous owner added a minimal 6 gal. bladder system to the boat, but I want better. I'm having problems finding a decent size waste storage tank that will fit beneath the port settee. What do y'all have in your boats? Date: May 27 , 1998 I have an 1980 E32 with a fixed poly holding tank of approx. 15-20 gallons under the V berth on the port side. I have no reason to believe that it isn't factory installed, but it would be an easy install on any E32. Date: May 27, 1998 Our E32 has a rigid plastic holding tank for the head located on the port side under the v-berth. It's accessible thru a locker lid under the cushion. It looks as though it could be disconnected, removed and replaced, but that's one I haven't tried as of yet. Date: May 27, 1998 Both tanks ... your's and this other one. What are the sizes of these tanks? Rectangular, triangular ? I haven't seen any in any catalog that apears to fit the area I have. Date: May 27, 1998 Jim, not sure of the exact size but I would gues it's about 12" wide, 16" tall and 24" long. It's made of translucent (and semi-rigid) plastic. It's tucked up as far forward as possible and allows us to store cases of pop. Beyond that, our owners manual and other docs don't offer much. Date: May 27, 1998 Jim, Date: May 27, 1998 We recently purchased VOYAGER a 1981 37' Endeavour. The head essentially discharges overboard. It does have a holding tank in line after the overboard discharge and a deck pumpout fitting for the tank. I would like to re-route to discharge directly into the tank and then have a manual pump to either pump overboard when legal or use a pumpout station. The problem is the lack of access to the hoses from the head, the loop, and to the tank without cutting major section out of the head area. Any suggestions? Date: May 31, 1998 This is in reponse to Jim McMordie's question concerning the head waste holding tank on the E-32. On Kon-Tiki, a 1977 E-32, we have a hard 15 gal. holding tank located under the port side of the V-Berth. The waste is pumped out through a deck fitting on the port deck.
Date: February 28, 1999 I've recently purchased an E37 (1980: Kanda), and will be redoing a number of systems. I'd like to share info with others. I've also recently retired and moved to Bradenton, FL, where I'll be bringing her from her current location in St. Pete. One of the first things I've thought about to change is the head. This currently has a gate valve that allows flushing either directly overboard or into a holding tank. However, once matter is flushed into the holding tank, it can only be removed by a pumpout station. There is no facility for pumping out this tank directly overboard when offshore. Boats I have previously had have had a facility for pumping the holding tank directly overboard when offshore, which is far more convenient. Maybe there's a Florida or federal law I'm unaware of that bans any capability to flush the holding tank overboard, even when at sea. Does anyone know about this? If it isn't banned, has anyone made a change such as I've suggested? If so, does it require an additional through-hull, or can it be teed back into the existing overboard discharge that's set up for direct flushing? Thanks in advance for any info. Again, I would like to share ideas on redos. I have to admit that I'm fairly new to boats with systems this complex (i.e. watermaker, inverter, AC, etc.), although I've sailed all my life. Date: March 4, 1999 Hugh, Date: March 14, 1999 Hugh, Date: June 1, 1999 We are looking for some information on the original 42's and some of the systems. Our Endeavour 42 "Bacchus", formerly "Triumphant", has a bow holding tank that has the pumpout hose at the top, long side of the tank. Therefore, when it is pumped out, we never remove more then 2/3's of the tank. There does not appear to be any type of extension into the bottom of the tank from the hose. Has anyone experienced this and what remedies have been utilized to correct the problem? This boat is new to us (1 month) and we are working out the bugs. We also have a Nauta holding tank under the starboard "seat" of the aft cabin which needs to be replaced. It measures @ 27" square. Has anyone had experience with using this type of tank and what the capacity is? Date: October 5, 1999 Mr. Joyner was asking about pumping the head overboard. I thought an experience we had might be helpful. We have a similar set up on Spider John (E-37) but our overboard discharge is down "stream" of the holding tank. The holding tank is under the forward berth to port, and only holds about 12 gallons. With the overboard valve and the valve to the tank open, the effluent was siphoned out. I didn't intend for this to happen, and haven't tried to duplicate it, but depending on the set up, it might be a way to empty the tank off shore. Date: February 3, 2000 I'm curious to hear what various people have done for holding tanks on their E-32's. I have a 14-1/2 gal. Nauta bladder under the port v-berth but which I had more holding capacity. One thought that occurred to me (non-reversible) is to turn the 40 gal. fresh water tank in the bow into a holding tank, and install freshwater tanks under the port v-berth and also under the cabin deck in the 10x14x40 portion of the bilge. Has anyone done this type of conversion and if so what has been your experience? Date: February 3, 2000 Hello Bob The idea of converting the water tank is a bad idea.: My solution Date: February 7, 2000 Hi again. My E32 has a fuel tank in the bilge, just forward of the engine. That is an 18 gallon one, and opens up the engine room to all kinds of ideas. I'd keep the fresh water where it is, and add another holding tank to the starboard side if you need that much storage. Fresh water is always in short supply where I go, but grey water can be dumped. Date: May 26, 2000 I recently purchased a 32 Endeavour and the previous owner removed the tank that was in the port side of v-berth. He installed a new head and all the piping for a new holding tank but never completed the project before he sold the boat to me. I would like to install the biggest tank possible and would appreciate any comments to assist me. Date: May 30, 2000 I have a 15 gal tank in my 32. I don't think you could get much more than that in there. Measure the opening and go shopping. Date: May 31, 2000 Peter The tank is only 18 gallons because I still wanted some hanging space in the closet. If you like I can have the marina look up the make/model. etc. Cheers. Date: May 31, 2000 I custom made one from plywood and West systems. This was the only practical way I could have the resulting max size. West makes a publication that I followed. Give them a call and they can be very helpful. Date: October 7, 2000 Endeavour Owners,
From: Jim McMordie jim_mcmordie@gilbarco.com
From: Randy Pickelmann RWP48@aol.com
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com
From: Jim McMordie jim_mcmordie@gilbarco.com
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com
From: Robert Chamberlain rchamber@snip.net
My E32 has a holding tank on the port side of the boat under the forward "V" berth. I had assumed that this was the original setup. My E32 is a 1979. I'm not pleased with the setup because where I do the majority of my sailing there aren't any pump-out stations. I may put in a porti-pot and decide if I want to buy the the Lectra-San. Good luck.
From: Bill Woodroffe whwboat@aol.com
From: Dave and Carol Wright dgw1@aol.com
From: Hugh Joyner hjoyner@gateway.net
From: John Bartoszek jbartosz@symbol.com
I have an Endeavour 40 that had the same head setup as you described. I re-plumbed both heads and installed macerators tee'd into the deck pump-out line. I tee'd the macerator output into the overboard discharge line. I installed a quarter-turn shutoff in the macerator exit line to close off the line from the seacock and direct overboard discharge line (also to close off the macerator line to allow a vacuum to be pulled on the deck pump-out line). I removed all gate valves from the system. I installed a y-valve in the head discharge line to allow me to switch beteen direct overboard discharge and discharging into the holding tank. If you need more details please feel free to contact me at jbartosz@symbol.com.
From: Rick Misiurak misiurak@email.msn.com
I did something similar to John. In my case I left the gate valve, added a second holding tank on the starboard side and drilled an above the warter line discharge for the macerator. I installed a T valve to allow overboard discharge via the macerator or pumpout. I have yet to try using the pumpout. I have not encountered any problems since installation
From: Donna M. Cass bacchus42@earthlink.net
From: A. C. Whitlow awhitlow@valottery.state.va.us
From: Bob and Sandy Warren rwarren@inna.net
From: robjude@shianet.org
Living in the great lakes, I am somewhat familiar with holding tanks and pumpouts, etc.
On Danny's Fault, I made a custom made holding tank for the port side. I use 1/2 " plywood and West System. I have had it on board for for two years without a problem. (now that i said that, i wonder what is going to break) The volume is only about 22 gal, but my wife and I can live on board, on the hook, for about 5 days without an overflow. I have considered adding an additional tank in the starboard locker, under the vee, but the double plumbing sounds like a place for problems. I believe the the KISS system. (Hmm, maybe a cedar bucket!)
From: Tom Gilbert TGil95746@aol.com
From: Peter G. Sicurella psic@rcn.com
From: Pete Doddato lapdog@olsusa.com
From: Robert Flath oldthumper@primary.net
My 1976 E32 was without hoilding tank when I bought it. My water tank fills the space under the V-berth. I had a local marina install a tank in the bottom of the coat closet accross from the head, running the lines around under the V-berth just aft of the water tank and behind the bulkhead there. I had already installed an access door on the bulkhead (center) to install a knotmeter transducer, so access to run lines was easier.
From: Rob Johnson robjude@shianet.org
From: Paul Uhl endvr32@endeavourowners.com
One of the more common or popular topics is that of replacing fuel, water, and holding tanks. In the October 2000 issue of SAIL Magazine there is a very good article about the causes of their deterioration, preventitive measures, the best materials for their uses, how they're manufactured, etc. There is also a list of about 12 manufacturers and the types of tanks they specialize in making. I highly recommend reading it if you're considering a replacement.
